Why so eager to use chats?

[on the rocks]

A trend I've noticed in recent years is an increasing desire among those on the darkweb to interact over a platform that provides quicker exchange of information.  As time goes on, it becomes even more pronounced and it has me wondering what is going on.
There have always been chats.  For many people my age, they may have bumped into child pornography for the first time via some ancient chat platform.  But to me, they've always been a sideshow; little distraction from the meat and potatoes of on topic interaction; which for me back then was downloading CP videos.  I got quite used to a sort of forum-based platform to get this material and that translated well into hanging out at place like PSC.  You log in, check to see what's new, maybe reply to a few things, then take what you acquired offline to view.

I feel a culture shift going on however.  I don't want to generalize, but I suspect it stems from people who are younger than me that are used to a much more instantaneous exchange in other areas of their online life and come to expect the same even when the topic is pedophilia.  All you 20-somethings have lived with screens as you came of age far beyond anything I did and I just feel this enthusiasm for rapid responses.  In of itself, it's no big deal; people are free to do what they want.  It does, however, trigger an alarm in my head, because as I learned about being safe on the darkweb, more speed = less safe.  If something is happening faster, then either there is something inherent to the connection that is riskier, or (and I think this is the more important angle here) there is less time to speak faster than we can think.

I am personally leery about getting involved in some sort of chat ecosystem because there is less time think about what one writes and that increases the chance that one will blurt out something potentially identifying.  Perhaps that's not an issue for those who grew up being extremely cognizant about over-sharing in other online worlds, but it was an early security check that I became familiar with.

I guess I'm looking for opinions on why a chat-based platform is more appealing than something like we have here.  I'm a living fossil in darkweb internet years, so it's not in my comfort zone, thus I'd appreciate any insights.

[[MMb_Lover]]

Well its kind of hard to sext/cam/voice on a forum vs chat.  Not everyone in chats wants to have a deep meaningful discussion of why Pluto is no longer a planet and just want to exercise Mr. Winky with someone or others.  No rules.  No one baby sitting us. Media files. I see them as completely different things providing two different services. I always had groups going on // and I don't think we ever talked quantum physics.

I guess the part that stuck out was the "more appealing'" I just don't see why it has to be one or the other. Its kinda like being on Facebook and twitter. Choices. Options. Different people, experiences. I lost all my groups and I really liked em so did everyone else so rebuilding on Tox since // went corp from here and a couple other places I don't want to mix paths with. I am almost sure no one joining is planning on dropping the rest of their social sites. Shit I had groups and chats on Yahoo!!!  I mean Tox room is never going to have 3000 people in it. It would not work very well where 3000 on a forum is no problem. 3000 people trying to chat would be funny and annoying.

And the simple fact Ive been running groups, boards, email lists and chats since decades. It just what I do but I am not interested in web hosting on the dark web so I can operate some chats on Tox and provide some fun for us BL.

[[MMb_Lover]]

Long story shot I think group chats are more about taking care of needs taking care of. For me anyways. I am not interested in looking for deep connections in the chats and sorry if anyone thought that. I have my my pedo buddy and I am planning on opening up to anyone else on that kind of level right now anyways. I just want to get off with some like minded pedos.  And maybe some light general chat one on one.

[ijp]

Well its kind of hard to sext/cam/voice on a forum vs chat.  Not everyone in chats wants to have a deep meaningful discussion of why Pluto is no longer a planet and just want to exercise Mr. Winky with someone or others.  No rules.  No one baby sitting us. Media files. I see them as completely different things providing two different services. I always had groups going on // and I don't think we ever talked quantum physics.

That's why I'd always personally avoided chats

I hate to involve other people in my horny-ness. It's my responsibility, and it's too easy to get caught up in it. Plus there's plenty of places where that's the goal - to talk about being horny. I don't talk to my friends about stuff like that, I want the deep conversations and the spirited debates.

I guess I'll accept my role as a boomer along with OTR

[[MMb_Lover]]

Well group chat may not work out so well anyways. I keep expecting this Tox to be as good as // and it is def not any where near // level.  I just may have to go on signal with a burner number if this app continues to be a cunt. For some reason the system dumped all in the room out when I left last night. No files in group chat either.

[JWebbGazer]

I come from that same time frame Rocks, Even as far back as BBS's posting about the new hottie going around.

You ever poke around in the good old Use-net nntp groups?

[[MMb_Lover]]

I used news groups and BBS so long ago.

[qingshomerun]

I think the way the world is now people want to have the "group chat" experience. Like a pedo group chat. I dont blame them. I prefer it. This medium is slow and considered which is certainly great but there is less connection overall in a longer time frame in a forum compared to a chat. I just dont feel nearly as safe using them so I stick to forums.

[[MMb_Lover]]

I think the way the world is now people want to have the "group chat" experience. Like a pedo group chat. I dont blame them. I prefer it. This medium is slow and considered which is certainly great but there is less connection overall in a longer time frame in a forum compared to a chat. I just dont feel nearly as safe using them so I stick to forums.

Seems so many are hell bent on trying to compare the 2 as being the same. Apples and oranges really. A group chat is NOTHING like a forum set up. I think IM app are def more safer than a public display but that just be my thinking maybe. Its not overly hard to find someone in real if you know what you're doing and they start or are dropping bread crumbs.  Granted the same thing can happen in IMs trust me on that but if you are chatting one on one. You only have to worry about them when you post openly everyone is there......waiting.....watching....Ive found a few people in real life. Or even a group for that matter still way less exposure vs forum.

[qingshomerun]

I think the way the world is now people want to have the "group chat" experience. Like a pedo group chat. I dont blame them. I prefer it. This medium is slow and considered which is certainly great but there is less connection overall in a longer time frame in a forum compared to a chat. I just dont feel nearly as safe using them so I stick to forums.

Seems so many are hell bent on trying to compare the 2 as being the same. Apples and oranges really. A group chat is NOTHING like a forum set up. I think IM app are def more safer than a public display but that just be my thinking maybe. Its not overly hard to find someone in real if you know what you're doing and they start or are dropping bread crumbs.  Granted the same thing can happen in IMs trust me on that but if you are chatting one on one. You only have to worry about them when you post openly everyone is there......waiting.....watching....Ive found a few people in real life. Or even a group for that matter still way less exposure vs forum.

I envy your faith in these systems and your situational awareness to pull these things off. I agree that the comparison is misleading. They are only similar in that they are means of communication and community. The public display concerns are one of the distinctions. I find it a constant reminder that what I write is online forever. The same reality can be true for other platforms but they build an artificial sense of security.

[[MMb_Lover]]

You know the saying, 6 of 1 6 of another. I only have 10 people one I think I will say good bye to and the rest I am real good with. 8 are from PSC and 1 brought from // who've known for years to Tox. I can only assume they must be planning on reworking the group chat feature because its just so worthless. This is the cleanest my IM has been in eons I plan on keeping it more, whats the word I want to use. More scrutiny works.

Plus if you just spanking it your pretty good you wont be divulging to much personal info. I'll just use VPN and hide my IP on Tox with my kill switch. Theres not really much to get since I am very comfortable with the contacts I have.

[qingshomerun]

I am returning to say that at times like these when I have flooded all the boards almost with replies and wish someone would reply but know I should log off and go do something else because it will be a long wait that chats seem so appealing. Whilst at low levels you are still waiting for someone to be online now and then, with enough contacts you always have someone to talk to when you are free to be online for on topic.

I really wish I wasnt absolutely certain the moment I setup Qtox or whatever those things are they will lift the roof off my building and a SWAT team will rope in and arrest me after breaking my nose for good measure.

Having said all this I know that the times when I have been in real time pedo community chats the conversation often reached the same familiar patterns going nowhere but the land of "if only" and left me with a different empty feeling of knowing I will never get to be close to a girl the way I always dream about.

[MumLuv4ever]

I think some like the quick response time.  I honestly have got used to the forums and get more excited when I get on to hopefully have replies and messages waiting for me.  The chats have kinda turned into just role play and annoying fantasy chats with no substance.

[LittleGirllover]

Man good conversations! I feel the same way about wanting to have a closer connection with another pedo friend. Someone I can talk to every day or ever so often. It would be a dream to hear their voice and can talk CP together or something to that effect. Even just having a basic conversation would be cool too. It’s funny that we are all talking about this, every time I go home from work I think about ideas to have a chat room being a virtual reality room where everyone can see everybody and can hear them talk. The safety features I would design if I was very good at developing software. I would have voice disguising software and have an avatar which everyone can make a custom one. I just think about all the conversations where we can all talk about different topics and amount of information we get across in a short amount of time would be wonderful.

[[MMb_Lover]]

The chats have kinda turned into just role play and annoying fantasy chats with no substance.

This sums up my // life. I was only there for one thing. Get it done, have a sandwich and go to bed. Sorry, not sorry. I have now terminated all my // accts though.