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Might be wrong subsection as it is my subjective opinion but I consider it a guide that I wish i had when I first entered the world of child love communities online. I am using my experience from several years in and out of various communities and not really this one at all though of course there will be some matches. Certainly we suppose most here fall in to one of the more genuine groups. Please read the list as relating to the wider world of pedophile forums and communities online rather than this particular forum. It is also full of generalizations so read with a sense of humor rather than assume I am accusing PSC of being a front for a pedophile ring (that is more based on those forums that got shut down that were a front for a pedophile ring).

So you want to be an online pedophile? Let's see who you might become and who you might meet. Feel free to contribute any further detail or pedophile types I missed.

1. The pedophile: a genuine pedophile, secure in their identity and contact stance. They may genuinely be active but you likely wont hear too much about the detail because they are genuinely careful and genuinely aware of the acute risk their girl will be exposed to by sharing too much or too frequently.

2. The "oh no im a pedophile": they watched a few child porn videos and had their best orgasm ever and assumed that must mean they are into kids now. They freak about identity and insecurity and are desperate for community. A non judgemental pedo community accepts them at their word and supports them so they begin to cement their sexuality as attracted to minors even though they likely had greater choice over the inevitability of the outcome than they thought. (I consider this my category).

3. The fantasist: horny and lonely and seeking a thrill they go about asserting grand claims to wow those in the communities who are desperate to believe and those who simply come along to see how far the fantasists imagination will go. Often these individuals abandon ship once they have "finished" being horny and mean no harm by their unannounced roleplay. They unfortunately run a real risk of misleading newcomers and causing doubt to be sown on those successfully active pedophiles who truly have had fantastic experiences with a young girl or two. These individuals may be pedophiles but they may also just be into extreme fetishes of which their cock believes pedophilia is one. They may also overlap with the next type.

4. The manipulator: seeking similar sexual gratification the manipulator takes advantage of the vulnerable pedophiles and especially the "oh no im a pedophile"s. They push the boundaries of these newbies and vulnerable pedophiles until they finally object. At this point they will continue to feed insecurities and vulnerabilities but in a slower and more calculated manner that gives the impression they have respected the limit of the newbie. Instead they push the concept of the inevitability that the "oh no im a pedophile"s will soon be exclusively attracted to prepubescent children or that they will find rape and abuse of children appealing. They intertwine these concepts in a welcoming sense of identity and inclusion ultimately embedding a powerful objectification of children as sexual objects rather than beautiful kids with hopes and dreams and wide eyes looking for guidance. I got burned by these types when I first started and I am still trying to unwind the damage particularly in regards to objectification and rape apologism. I also admit that I often come across like a manipulator but I am not getting off on ill intent. I am instead:

5. Activist: a self identified pedophile (rarely category 1 - the genuine pedos tend to live in the real world) who either believes in "the cause" or at least uses his support for it to cover up insecurity. They have developed a clear set of beliefs about what it means to be a pedophile and go about encouraging and supporting people to adopt those beliefs. They are fighting for a cause and understand what it is like to live in the paranoid world of sexual attraction to children. They should ideally be forgiving of those who cannot meet their personal beliefs of pedophile identity and be willing and open to changing their own mind or admitting being wrong. They may be more overt or more subtle in their activism. Like the manipulator they will push other members to meet their beliefs but unlike the manipulators they should respect individual's values and their limits rather than seek to corrode them.

6. Trader: Thinks the forum is a front for child porn and depending on subtlety goes about publicly or privately requesting trades or cultivates a network over time before bringing members of the network to a platform more appropriate for trading. Deals in volume not quality. More likely a fantasist than a genuine pedo or the "oh no im a pedophile".

7. Collecter: Knows the forum is not a front for child porn but also that a bunch of members have collections and they might even have "Vid241BA - 1998 - FULL AUDIO" which they desperately want. Is respectful of the rules and more likely to identify as a genuine pedo than not. They make valuable contributions to the forum and go about specifically identifying those who might have that missing holy grail they just know is out there (some fool of a trader probably renamed it "6 year old loves her dad PTHC" or some equally innaccurate name because she is 9 and it is her uncle). They cannot bear to open the folder with "Vid241BA - 1998 - NO AUDIO" until they find the audio version and if they do remember they haven't completed the collection their eye twitches.

8. Minor: very likely a number 3 (fantasist) rather than a minor but you just cant discount the possibility. Probably has a limited social network in real life but is relatively intelligent for their age. May have had sexual experiences or suffered abuse. May be attracted to prepubescent children themselves (though this perception is probably more likely to be an "oh no im a pedophile" scenario than the genuine pedo.

9. Pedophile ring member/leader: using the forum and community as a cover for running their child porn site. Knows the forum is a front for child porn because they built it that way. They will enlist any of the other types of participants to join the admin team further providing cover if LEA come knocking. Either pushing them under the bus or pointing to them as proof they are up to nothing untoward.

10. The "I'm into everything and everyone": they want the extremes and have for various reasons dulled their sense of morality or sexual pleasure so much that only the worst of the worst will get them going. Sex with kids count in that category. The open mindedness of a pedophile community provides them some hope for finding the belonging they have systematically eradicated the chance to achieve by spiraling into further darker and more extreme fetishes.

11. The producer: Probably a fantasist but producers need to engage with their identity too so you just count discount the possibility. They conveniently share the same username as a famous producer and seem to post credible comments infrequently about their productions as well as providing exclusive content that seems to be convincing proof they are who they say. Often disappears for long periods of time and everyone panics they got arrested and they'll never get the video from the trailer. But they are active pedophiles and have real lives and real kids to fuck so be grateful they bothered to register at all.

12. No contact: Conservative or solidly connected to reality these pedophiles have taken a vow of celibacy in an admirable effort to protect themselves and others from harm. Many struggle with addiction to child porn and are trying to kick the habit.

13. Sex offender: Got caught. Regret it or not. They are also in touch with reality and the consequences of being a child lover.

14. Anti: spends their spare time reading pedophile forums in an exercise of self hatred and bigotry. They wish they could shoot community members through their computer screen but will settle for a chance discovery of an accidental personal detail or befriend another member to dox them (who was also an anti because thats the only person who wouldnt be able to spot a fake pedo). Ultimately gets arrested for possession of child porn or abuse of a child because they are terrible people.

15. LEA: Law Enforcement Authority accounts are clearly marked by their avatars which are police badges1. They rotate turns in making posts using a style guide because seeing a bunch of people struggle with their sexuality and place in the world is "disgusting and traumatic" to their sensitive little brains. They cant wait to ruin a little girl's life by arresting her adult friend.

16. Pedomom/female pedo: I have very little experience with these ladies perhaps someone can fill in the blanks for me. Probably fall in to one of the other categories.

I am in categories 2 and 5 for sure but have been slowly removing myself out of the bad habits I had that resemble aspects of 3 and 4.

1Ok I am scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Of course they aren't. Who knows if the LEA are even aware of this or that forum? Maybe there are no LEA members and maybe all members are LEA.
« Last Edit: 14 January, 2023, 05:17:00 by qingshomerun »
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I am with you on 5. Not too sure about 2. At times though yes. Just when I think I got it by the horns. I think the oh no for me is the AOA not so much the whole thing if that makes sense. Not only do I have to be a pedo but I have to be one that likes em young. Not that I don't like others older but yeah that AOA is right on.
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I am with you on 5. Not too sure about 2. At times though yes. Just when I think I got it by the horns. I think the oh no for me is the AOA not so much the whole thing if that makes sense. Not only do I have to be a pedo but I have to be one that likes em young. Not that I don't like others older but yeah that AOA is right on.

2 is where I started almost certainly. It eventually moves to 1 if you continue to embrace the identity or if you work at choosing another identity and ignoring the exhileration of breaking taboos you can effectively choose to not be a pedophile. That is what makes 2 different to 1. For genuine pedophiles their sexuality is who they are and wont change. For "oh no im a pedophile" they are usually naive idiots (like I was) and are freaking out that they must be a pedophile now after watching one little video. I kinda wish I was there with the younger version of me at the time to say "just delete the video and go fuck someone your age" because I think I could have moved on at that point quite quickly.
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Haha, oh yeah #7 made me laugh. I have met that guy. (Low key, I worry that I am that guy, but never here at PSC).
And #9, #11? Sure I think it would be cool to talk to those guys. I am sure that they have interesting things to say and interesting perspectives.
But #10, #12, #14? Antis, glowies, and weird extreme perverts? Nah I don't think they should come here. Nothing in it for them or for us.

I'm probably in category 5, but because I don't want to be a pushy asshole about it all I am usually just holding quiet.

Maybe one day if I get a lucky chance and I have the skill + wisdom to use that chance I can be in category 12. I think all of us who do not have active sexual contact with children fantasize about having a little girlfriend and making not just some porn but beautiful sexual visual arts together with her. A very high minded fantasy and very very common most likely. Those who do really have sexual contact with little girls probably feel more sober about it, and fear for safety in these troubling times, more's the pity.

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I am with you on 5. Not too sure about 2. At times though yes. Just when I think I got it by the horns. I think the oh no for me is the AOA not so much the whole thing if that makes sense. Not only do I have to be a pedo but I have to be one that likes em young. Not that I don't like others older but yeah that AOA is right on.

2 is where I started almost certainly. It eventually moves to 1 if you continue to embrace the identity or if you work at choosing another identity and ignoring the exhileration of breaking taboos you can effectively choose to not be a pedophile. That is what makes 2 different to 1. For genuine pedophiles their sexuality is who they are and wont change. For "oh no im a pedophile" they are usually naive idiots (like I was) and are freaking out that they must be a pedophile now after watching one little video. I kinda wish I was there with the younger version of me at the time to say "just delete the video and go fuck someone your age" because I think I could have moved on at that point quite quickly.

They recruit and suck you in (careful no intentions with recruit). If I had never found those group of pedos my pedo thoughts would be still and I doubt I would be here. For the LONGEST time I ignored them etc told them I wasn't in to that but surely I was. You got work that a bit more and they did too. At the same time I like to drag em over to this side too. In the last 3-6 I am pushed that door wide open. I am pedo and I am here!

Interesting post too.
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Haha, oh yeah #7 made me laugh. I have met that guy. (Low key, I worry that I am that guy, but never here at PSC).
And #9, #11? Sure I think it would be cool to talk to those guys. I am sure that they have interesting things to say and interesting perspectives.
But #10, #12, #14? Antis, glowies, and weird extreme perverts? Nah I don't think they should come here. Nothing in it for them or for us.

I'm probably in category 5, but because I don't want to be a pushy asshole about it all I am usually just holding quiet.

Maybe one day if I get a lucky chance and I have the skill + wisdom to use that chance I can be in category 12. I think all of us who do not have active sexual contact with children fantasize about having a little girlfriend and making not just some porn but beautiful sexual visual arts together with her. A very high minded fantasy and very very common most likely. Those who do really have sexual contact with little girls probably feel more sober about it, and fear for safety in these troubling times, more's the pity.

Relieved my attempts at humor didnt fall flat in at least one case. :fun:

Also great to hear you relate to some I was worried this was all just in my imagination. Number 5 is definitely prone to lurking and choosing when to put forward their case carefully if they are the more subtle kind. I wrote that one basically describing myself but (you may have noticed) I am the more pushy asshole type ;)

Chatting to a producer or a "ring member" - fun fact we are almost all considered ring members if this site got in the news somehow as many of us more or less support and encourage the wellbeing of members who are active with children and that'd be enough for a front page "huge pedophile ring busted".- would be an education most certainly. Those I have spoken to in other communities and chats tended to appear closer to the fantasizer than the real deal.

Now now don't go lumping no contact pedophiles in with antis and weirdly no limit types! :P Antis you can beat up on all you like most certainly, no limit types are often massive red flags (potentially fantasist or manipulator) but on occasion I have spoken to those who seem genuinely struggling with the fact that snuff and other really ick content is just as good for them as CP or zoo porn or whatever. There is a whole no contact section in the forum too so dont write them off! I think they are making a tough but reasonable call.It is harder to be no contact than an activist that is for sure, look at how much forum space pro contact content gets versus no-contact. Smaller world for them. I'll always back someone who wants to go no contact just as I will always back someone who goes pro contact.

I assume the last bit about category 12 you meant category 11? Producer? I would fully support anyone who was making an informed and considered choice to start producing. It would be great to help polish a finished product or emotional support or anything someone who made that choice needed. As with all these very real and serious choices I would make sure they knew how to back out safely without getting caught and most importantly without harming their child star. For me personally I won't ever engage in contact as far as I can see and even if I did I would avoid producing unless there was a vital need to provide my girl a peer to talk to about her experiences or another man to fool around with. In that case producing is basically the only hope of safely meeting.

Thanks for your reply it was light hearted and thought provoking all at once!
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Great list, quigs!  +1
I have known ALL of those types of online pedophiles.  1 thru 5; all day every day. The others less often but very much in the mix.  This is especially true if one spends a lot of time reviewing introductions. ;)

A category I would propose based on "someone I know" :unsure : The Professor.
This person does seem to have a lot of knowledge, but always uses big words just to make sure everyone thinks they are smart.  They frequently condescend to others, especially in a disagreement; there's always an air of "okay sonny, let me tell you how it is..." to their words.  The like to engage in heady debates about pedophilia because it makes their big words sound more impressive. Of course, it's all a big front.  They are at best a pseudo-intellectual and don't actually read as much as it sounds like they do.  After debating the ethics of child porn and giving many arguments against it, they'll turn around and fap to children taking loads in the face.  So The Professor is usually a hypocrite.
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Dont hold back in sharing your experiences if you want - this may not be a chat subforum but any real life examples of the accuracy of the guide will help it develop and so I should think be considered as relevant to topic.

I know I seem to respond to every post and that might be intimidating but please dont let me discourage anyone from making more suggestions, identifying errors or simply identifying which categories you have or do fall into and which categories you have experience interacting with. The more replies the more certainty I have in the quality of the guide. Dont be afraid to talk about positive interactions with those in seemingly negative categories. Perhaps a manipulator led you to self acceptance (I believe that happened to me partially) or a fantasist gave you a moment to escape to a place where your wildest pedo dreams are possible. I am grateful for the few encounters I have reasonable certainty were with a fantasist because they make for satisfying conversations and the opportunity to dream that maybe they really were telling the truth.

I have had two or three times where I engaged in role play without disclosing it in other communities. It helped me access those communities before I was ready to accept that I myself would be accepted and figure out what safety risks were involved. I still wish I had not misguided people with these moments of my life because (in the last attempt I made before reevaluating the choice) pretending to be a 13 year old boy is fun until someone starts to fall in love with you. Fortunately I cut it off at that point because I realized the harm I could be doing and how I would feel to think I had met my ideal child partner online only to discover it was all a lie. I still wouldnt dismiss fantasists as inherently harmful because I can see how it could be done with careful consideration. Good op sec conceivably might look very similar to role play for some and so having a bit of experience at it might keep new pedos safe online.

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Great list, quigs!  +1
I have known ALL of those types of online pedophiles.  1 thru 5; all day every day. The others less often but very much in the mix.  This is especially true if one spends a lot of time reviewing introductions. ;)

A category I would propose based on "someone I know" :unsure : The Professor.
This person does seem to have a lot of knowledge, but always uses big words just to make sure everyone thinks they are smart.  They frequently condescend to others, especially in a disagreement; there's always an air of "okay sonny, let me tell you how it is..." to their words.  The like to engage in heady debates about pedophilia because it makes their big words sound more impressive. Of course, it's all a big front.  They are at best a pseudo-intellectual and don't actually read as much as it sounds like they do.  After debating the ethics of child porn and giving many arguments against it, they'll turn around and fap to children taking loads in the face.  So The Professor is usually a hypocrite.
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(In case it's not obvious from context, I'm talking about myself here. ;) )

Part of me sank to see not many replies here because I hoped it was relatable but then I read this and knew that any lack of interaction was likely due to those not feeling comfortable to identify themselves and those missing the post because who checks the guides every time they login right?

Your additional suggestion is also a really valuable one to the list. I had tried to avoid sub categorizing community members but I'll admit it is hard to avoid. I think what I like most about it is the concept of self perceived pseudo intellectual and self named "Professor". Oxymoronic, right? Yet talk to professors for long enough and you get the same sense of a slick outer shell concealing a human shaped quantity of self-doubt. Professors are by their nature always questioning themselves. I am reminded of some quote or other that is along the lines of "If a science leader says something might be possible the inevitability is that they are right. If they suggest something is impossible they are almost certainly wrong." Once you get far enough in to a field you realize you are THE guy and start getting cautious. Of course that means that when such Professors are confident enough to say something is simply impossible they have stopped questioning themselves on that matter and so lose that very trait that made them the leader in the field.

All this is to say pseudo-intellectual? On the matter of what it is to be a child lover and love children I think you are truly a tenured Professor at the University of Pedophilia. I mean that sincerely and without the negative connotations that may come with tenureship - you aren't settling for your comfortable retirement but continuing to excel in the field and to mentor others to reach the same heights!

I am glad you clarified you were talking about yourself by the way because reading it just now I thought for a moment it was describing me! Of course I debate the ethics of child porn and give many arguments for it before proceeding to avoid rekindling the delight that the old days of child porn brought me and maintain my total abstinence. Still a hypocrite just the other way around. Certainly I use big words and have no idea what I am talking about1. I am not nearly as published as yourself on the rocks so perhaps PhD (Pedophile Doctorate) student is more apt for me :fun:

Unfortunately, even though it is possible for someone to be both an activist and a professor I think it is rare. I am not truly a professor because like many (not all) activists I am a coward on top of a hyhpocrite. A professor merely ponders concepts but an activist pushes an agenda. I push for safe, consensual sexual and romantic activity between adults and children and encourage and support those who I encounter who are engaging, considering engaging or even seem ideal from my view to work towards being active. For all my talk I would never risk it myself. I do try to be clear about that when pushing my agenda and that it comes in part from a certainty I lack the qualities required to safely get intimate with a child but the reality is many successful child love relationships started from inexperience. I am acting just as much from cowardice in avoiding contact as from the belief I am the wrong type of pedo for the job.

Great contribution on the rocks thanks I love when my topics produce new insight or extract a valuable gem of information from someone in this community!

1Of course to fit your description one would have to be convincing to at least some people and perhaps on that count I fall short :rofl:
2Where "safe" refers to limiting harm to others - perhaps you are pretending to be an active pedophile to make that roleplay "safe" you might establish a justification for discouraging others to attempt to replicate your approaches. "Very few are able to get what I have and it involved way too much luck for me to recommend it but my relationship started when I abducted a girl in the street and we got on so well she didnt tell anyone when I let her go! Dont try this at home!" (this is intentionally outrageous example). Why is this required? Because if someone trusted your advice because it is "tried and tested" then you could be partially responsible for any harm that might result. There are arguments that suggest anyone engaging a child is responsible for their decisions and no one else is but as I mentioned this is a whole conversation in itself. For now: if you felt hurt or upset by this list just know that the author of it thinks it is ok to be in (some - not antis or LEA ofc unless they are also struggling pedos) the "less positive" sounding categories.
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Yet talk to professors for long enough and you get the same sense of a slick outer shell concealing a human shaped quantity of self-doubt. Professors are by their nature always questioning themselves. I am reminded of some quote or other that is along the lines of "If a science leader says something might be possible the inevitability is that they are right. If they suggest something is impossible they are almost certainly wrong." Once you get far enough in to a field you realize you are THE guy and start getting cautious. Of course that means that when such Professors are confident enough to say something is simply impossible they have stopped questioning themselves on that matter and so lose that very trait that made them the leader in the field.
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Unfortunately, even though it is possible for someone to be both an activist and a professor I think it is rare. I am not truly a professor because like many (not all) activists I am a coward on top of a hyhpocrite. A professor merely ponders concepts but an activist pushes an agenda.
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I am glad you clarified you were talking about yourself by the way because reading it just now I thought for a moment it was describing me! Of course I debate the ethics of child porn and give many arguments for it before proceeding to avoid rekindling the delight that the old days of child porn brought me and maintain my total abstinence. Still a hypocrite just the other way around. Certainly I use big words and have no idea what I am talking about1. I am not nearly as published as yourself on the rocks so perhaps PhD (Pedophile Doctorate) student is more apt for me :fun:

It was a couple of days after my initial reply and it popped in my head that maybe I was too subtle about the hint of "someone I know" and you were going to think I was talking about you.  Which, as a verbose person, does seem like it would be in the ballpark.  We've conversed a lot, but not enough for that kind of ribbing, so I started to think maybe you'd think I don't like you if I didn't explain my joke (thus killing said joke :P ).  Classic "Professor"; over thinking shit. :lol
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This is very interesting, I clearly self identify as a 1.

With the exception of not sharing details, my only defense in this space would be to say my experiences were long, long ago, I am truly retired and just living through my memories. So long ago, I was very safe but for evolving laws that 'open windows' to the past that was at one time safely protected by statutes of limitations. Though this is usually for just civil action, still, some level of paranoia exists.

That said I know readers of my post might feel a sense of over verbosity in my details, but I am very self aware of what I share... and don't.

It saddens me that some stories can never be told, the level of detail too unique, but maybe on my death bed if the opportunity presents itself, since I care not for my legacy I leave behind for those that remain living. I am pure in my atheism, I'll care not at all the thoughts of those left behind.
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This is very interesting, I clearly self identify as a 1.

With the exception of not sharing details, my only defense in this space would be to say my experiences were long, long ago, I am truly retired and just living through my memories. So long ago, I was very safe but for evolving laws that 'open windows' to the past that was at one time safely protected by statutes of limitations. Though this is usually for just civil action, still, some level of paranoia exists.

That said I know readers of my post might feel a sense of over verbosity in my details, but I am very self aware of what I share... and don't.

It saddens me that some stories can never be told, the level of detail too unique, but maybe on my death bed if the opportunity presents itself, since I care not for my legacy I leave behind for those that remain living. I am pure in my atheism, I'll care not at all the thoughts of those left behind.

I think it is very admirable to navigate life meeting just the criteria for group 1. A sure sign of a clear sense of identity and contentedness in who you are. I envy people in your position even though it does not remove all suffering as you have clearly outlined.

I am glad you clarified you were talking about yourself by the way because reading it just now I thought for a moment it was describing me! Of course I debate the ethics of child porn and give many arguments for it before proceeding to avoid rekindling the delight that the old days of child porn brought me and maintain my total abstinence. Still a hypocrite just the other way around. Certainly I use big words and have no idea what I am talking about1. I am not nearly as published as yourself on the rocks so perhaps PhD (Pedophile Doctorate) student is more apt for me :fun:

It was a couple of days after my initial reply and it popped in my head that maybe I was too subtle about the hint of "someone I know" and you were going to think I was talking about you.  Which, as a verbose person, does seem like it would be in the ballpark.  We've conversed a lot, but not enough for that kind of ribbing, so I started to think maybe you'd think I don't like you if I didn't explain my joke (thus killing said joke :P ).  Classic "Professor"; over thinking shit. :lol

Forunately I only logged in after those couple of days so I never experienced what you feared I might but I appreciate that you acted anyway!

Yet talk to professors for long enough and you get the same sense of a slick outer shell concealing a human shaped quantity of self-doubt. Professors are by their nature always questioning themselves. I am reminded of some quote or other that is along the lines of "If a science leader says something might be possible the inevitability is that they are right. If they suggest something is impossible they are almost certainly wrong." Once you get far enough in to a field you realize you are THE guy and start getting cautious. Of course that means that when such Professors are confident enough to say something is simply impossible they have stopped questioning themselves on that matter and so lose that very trait that made them the leader in the field.
<In almost all of his dialogues - and these are a large and varied collection, written down by the man who listened to him [Plato] - this is how he argues: he doesn't assert anything himself, but refutes what others argue, and he says that he knows nothing except just that, and so that he is ahead of others in this regard, because they think that they know what they don't, but the only thing he knows is that he knows nothing, and this was the reason why he considered that Apollo's oracle declared him the wisest man of all.> (Cicero on Socrates, Academica)

Unfortunately, even though it is possible for someone to be both an activist and a professor I think it is rare. I am not truly a professor because like many (not all) activists I am a coward on top of a hyhpocrite. A professor merely ponders concepts but an activist pushes an agenda.
Bravery and foolishness are distinguished only by their degree of success. One who truly understands the risks knows better than to be brave.

Thank you for identifying the source of the quote and the additional comments you made. As always your contributions are satisfying.
Please PM to chat about anything! Have a look at my series of debate topics where I grapple with what it means to be the Perfect Pedophile in an Imperfect World:
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